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You only meet 6 times the whole semester as a class so there aren't a lot of opportunities to get to know Professor Hollan. The class was fun because you get to work with a real company, but the assignments that were for the class were not very useful.
Dr. Hollan is really kind, but his class wasn't my favorite. The lectures aren't engaging or useful, but attendance was required. Your enjoyment depends on the group and team you get assigned. This class is also super time consuming (must put in at least 7.5hrs/week), and the class assignments were way more time consuming than they needed to be.
Good professor, good class. If you take his class, you'll do great.
Class was a waste of time, and super Anal about marking times. Very annoying, but the internship experience was worth it.
Great experience with the OCI, professor didn't show a lot of mercy but he did a good job at organizing the class.
David utilizes a variety of styles to teach effective business principles. Some of it may seem like busy work but none of it was terribly difficult.
Just kinda mid, seems like he likes having the power
Brother Hollan is a pretty stern guy. He takes BYU policy very seriously. Don't even think about taking a picture of his slides in class. He will see you and make a big deal out of it. You can tell he's a good guy though.
The class is fairly easy since you're more focused on accomplishing what your internship project is. Attendance is required about 6 times out of 14. Don't let the other reviews affect you too much. His teaching style wouldn't be a problem if students were more open-minded and professional. Assignments for the class are more for reflection.
This class is good in concept because it can put some good experience on your resume but the assignments that you have to do for a grade actually detract from your OCI project. This class structure needs to be redone!
This class takes a lot more time than I thought it would. Each student logs time, and must record at least 7.5 hours every week. My group was great, but sometimes Professor Hollan was hard to get a hold of.
He gives a ton of busy work that makes the class tedious. He sometimes talks down to students. He is not very respectful. The class is not hard, but it was not very enjoyable
Professor Hollan is a good professor but is really into the "tough love" treatment. Every lecture felt like we were getting scolded for what past students have done in previous OCI's. He makes his expectations very clear and sets them pretty high.
Good professor but is really into the "tough love" treatment. Every lecture we were getting scolded for what past students did. He makes his expectations clear and sets them high. This class had potential, but the actual business we were working for should have been vetted. They need CS majors to run it so we made pointless videos all semester.
Graded on participation and self evaluations mostly. The lectures pointless and were him chastising us. My company we interned should've been vetted because thy need CS and IS majors due to the fact that they're a social media app. He's very strict on due dates and my grade was destroyed. If we had a real project it would have been worth it.
Hollan is a great guy, but his lectures are worthless. I learned nothing during his class and spent my time playing chess while listening to him berate us for the sins of a past generation of students. The work for the company itself can be a good experience but Hollan tacks on a large amount of redundant modules in Canvas.
It's difficult to rate this class, given the unique nature of an OCI. There's only so much he can do when everyone is experiencing completely different projects, issues, etc. As far as the classwork goes, it's pretty minimal but also feels outdated and like busywork most of the time. Great guy though, and you'll have a TA that helps a lot.
I enjoyed the class, my team, and the ability to have experience in an internship. The class requires a lot of work outside of class and lots of busy work. The modules feel disorganized and the in-class lectures don't add much value to your project. However, I recommend you do at least one OCI during your time at BYU
A very serious but good professor.
He didn't care what was happening in anyone's life and refused to make exceptions. There are only 6 classes but they are mandatory. Class time was a waste and I didn't learn anything from him. The course is great because it gives you experience. Everything is turned in online. It is super easy to follow along, but the professor isn't great.
Classes are mandatory but feel pointless. Professor Hollan is fine. I never needed to meet or talk with him throughout the semester.
The OCI was an amazing experience and I highly recommend it to anyone who wants to build their resume. Professor Hollan is a little cold but he's still a great guy and you most likely won't ever talk to him one-on-one. Attendance is mandatory but you only meet for class like 5-6 times the whole semester, the rest is meeting 2x week with your team.
The main thing about this class is that it's for experience to build up a resume. Professor Hollan didn't do much except facilitate our having this internship experience. If you get a great TA, they'll be more helpful, IMO. Lectures felt pointless despite being mandatory, but at least they weren't every single week.
This class is great for building Resume skills, Professor Hollan is great and offering advice and encouraging students to do their best!
This class is not super class heavy but focuses on working with your company. The class portion has a bit of unnecessary work that can be distracting from completing the company project.
A lot of vague instructions about this class.
This professor is not terrible. But class is boring, and the course feels like it does not mesh well with the internships that students are working on. Also, Professor Holland seems to be grumpy most of the time. Not the worst class, but I almost always left with only one or two helpful things learned.
Dr. Hollan means well but it seems that he is a little out of touch. OCIs are great but all of my interactions with him were a little stiff. He jumped to a lot of conclusions on students and their behavior. Most of the time he assumed that students just didn't care about the course or their team.
Great class to gain some experience. The class itself was a little boring and seemed unnecessary, but overall positive experience.
This class has considerably little to do with the professor as I'm sure you're already aware, so don't stress about who you take this class from. I thought Professor Hollan was a good, smart, and respected guy, but the lectures were pretty pointless and boring. That had literally nothing to do with my experience in this class.
Helpful for getting into my program. Grateful for what I learned.
Great class, learned a lot of things that I can add to my resume.
Professor Holland has been doing on campus internships for a long time. The lectures were to long and sometimes unnecessary. No matter what, you will learn something from your OCI.
This was a good class. I really enjoyed the experience that I got. There is a lot of class assignments that don't go with the internship that I thought were pretty useless but they aren't that hard. As long as you do the assignments you will get a good grade.
I did the OCI and David Hollan was the teacher for the class. It was a great experience, however, I found a lot of the work that was needed to be done kind of a waste of time. They were mostly modules telling us the importance of communication and stuff like that. Besides some meaningless work, the actual OCI experience was great!
He has a lot of faith in the course. It is important for you to put in the effort to make a change or else its useless. but if you make it worth it it'll be really helpful.
Lectures could be pretty boring way, too many extended metaphors for my liking. Overall, I had a good experience with my internship, but it really depends what project you are assigned to.
I did the OCI, he is intense but gives a lot of good feedback and is a good teacher.
Attendance is mandatory but only once every other week for most of the semester so it's not bad. Don't get much out of the classes they're kinda just inspirational lectures. Doing an OCI itself is kinda a hit or miss depending on your project group and how much you put into it.
Great guy, but thinks ambiguity is a good thing. its kind of annoying imo.
This class was a great experience, the actual professor provided very little to the experience. The worst part of this class was the in-class time spent with this professor. He was very rude, disrespectful, and commanding of attention without providing any help or resources that could potentially justify his behavior.
The classes are full of lecturing and there is a lot of busy work for the first half of the semester. Be ready to spend a lot of time outside of class with your team and communicating with your sponsor. However, it was good hands-on experience.
He is a good guy and encourages us to be creative and work hard and build our testimonies of Jesus Christ. He could really organize the course in a much better way though. There's a lot of redundancy in the Canvas modules– it was a real pain to finish all the free response questions that seemed like were all asking the same thing in different ways.
This class is an exceptional way to get experience, however a lot of projects and assignments are vague and if you're not used to organizing your time, this class will cause you issues. If you can stay on top of projects and activities, this is an excellent class.
Class mandatory but all focus is on the project your are assigned not the class.
He was ok. We only had 6 class days for this class, but going to those was important. There was a lot of work for this class, including at lease 7.5-9 hours a week of work.
He is a good guy and wants to help. The course is centered around your project so I found the in-class to be irrelevant because the canvas modules cover everything else you need to know outside of your project. However, class was mandatory so you had to go.
Great class to take.
There are only a couple classes you actually have to attend for credit, so it's not terrible.
Attend the mandatory days, and remember to report your hours and the class itself should be a breeze. The internship you end up working however is a lot of work and requires a lot of time. Brother hollan provides plenty of resources if you need to review a business topic and is generally easy to contact.
Pretty flexible class, you get to put in your preferences for which internship you want and Prof Hollan does a good job placing everyone. Be prepared to put a minimum of 7.5 hours in a week.
Get your work done, submit your hours, do your best, and you will be successful in this class. You only meet a few times during the semester as a class.
He is a good guy, this class was a good experience
Just sorta lectured in class a lot. I don't mean teaching lecturing I mean lecturing like your mom does when you forget to make your bed. Class was pretty pointless but the overall OCI experience was a good learning opportunity.
He's hard to rate because we only had 6 class sessions with him (everything else was internship work), but I liked him. He has high expectations for his students, and might seem a little gruff at first, but he really wants students to succeed and tries to make learning resources open to them. Very supportive. Work hard and show you want to learn!
professor Holland was able to help us with our issues as group with our sponsor and we succeeded thanks to his advice.
Grading was unnecessarily hard and he wasn't flexible or easy to work with. That being said, it's an easy A and might give you good experience depending on your project and team.
This class gives great experience in the business world, but there is A LOT of busy work and sometimes its frustrating to have to worry about all of that rather than just the internship itself
The course was good. Students need to be proactive and actively participate. If you don't have internship experience, I recommend taking it early in your college career to get something on your resume.
When taking this class just know you'll get the most out of your OCI project rather than focusing on the in class portion. I found the in class part of this class not very helpful and oftentimes felt like I was being told off for things within my project and the feedback was more negative and not constructive.
Professor Hollan was a great professor who really cares about his class. I took an On-Campus Internship class from him. Overall, it was a great experience, but I felt like the class work that was assigned got in the way of the work I was doing for the company I was interning with. The class was made more complicated than it should be.
I did an OCI. Professor Holland is good but I had very little interaction with him. In an OCI almost all of the class you'll be working with your company sponsors and your TA. The few classes we have (I think 6) are mandatory to attend.
Professor Hollan is great at giving you feedback and making sure that you are getting the main point of the assignments and class.
The class is very easy and it really is the concept of "you reap what you sow". Classes are pretty boring though.
The class is really hit or miss on whether you get a good project. You gain what you put into the class but it's really easy to get an A.
Great Professor, every OCI is different. It really depends on what specific OCI project you get.
Easy class. Great experience no matter the kind of company you get paired with. I really didn't love the class lecture time - it felt so useless and didn't help that the professor had to make jokes to "make it worth our tuition money"
This is an internship class so not many lectures. The lectures were a little slow and hard to pay attention at times. Brother Hollan (as he goes by) is very passionate about what he does and it is easy to tell. Easy to get a good grade as long as you put in the required hours of 7.5 hours min a week and do the easy assignments on time.
Classes aren't that useful, but they count towards your grade whether you go or not.
He is very clear in his expectations; many of the questions posed by students were answered during his lectures and emails. Just pay attention, my guys.
I thought a lot of the classes were pointless, but there were only 5 class periods you have to attend. But, the internship experience was extremely valuable. Though some of the little assignments are tedious, I thought the course was organized well. I would recommend doing an oci because I learned a lot!
Easy class for MSB 494
He was a good guy but not my favorite teacher. Lots of side work on top of the already heavy internship. This class however was a very good opportunity to find an internship and get more experience.
It was a rewarding class but sometimes felt like the assignments/modules were busy work and not always super useful
Professor is proficient in every category necessary for a collegiate student.
Sometimes class wasn't super helpful, but he was a nice guy.
He is kind but his lectures are not super helpful. The TA's are not super responsive and do not give clear feedback when it comes to grading assignments. You will learn a lot from your sponsor, group, and project. Class in occasional so when you do have it you need to attend as it does affect your grade.
Pro. Hollan is strict and exacting, but clearly cares about his students and wants you to succeed.
The class meetings did not seem necessary outside of the ones about the grading for the midterm presentation, final report, and final presentation. If you don't have a group where each member is willing to put in effort and the time necessary for the project, I wouldn't recommend this class because my group didn't make my experience feel worth it.
The course was filled with busy work that wasn't particularly enriching. Similarly, the lectures were verging on useless, but are mandatory for a grade.
It was a very helpful class! There is a massive time commitment for the internship, and sometimes this was difficult because you don't know what your company will be asking you to do, so if you do not have work then it becomes a strain on your grade. Professor Hollan was amazing though!
Has the habit of making jokes in class and then getting upset when no one laughs. Literally happens once or twice every lecture. We were told several times that we need to "eat more sugar" before class so we would have higher energy and actually laugh.
lectures are required but not helpful. prof holan and the TA's provided no relevant info to help in our internship. Might be a good resume point, but not worth the work.
I loved my internship; it was very valuable and applicable to my resume. The classwork was very organized and the TA's were very helpful. However, our professor was very negative so mandatory classes were difficult to sit through.
He is great at what he does- finding BYU students internship experiences. You are required to attend 8 lectures, so they aren't every week. I did not find any of the lectures to be interesting, I often zoned out and struggled to focus. On the other hand, our team for the OCI and the non-profit we worked with were fun and interesting.
The class is great because you get to work in a real life business setting with other students. I learned a ton and had a lot of fun. That being said, I felt like class itself was a bit of a waste of time. We met five times during the semester to discuss things that would've taken a five minute sit down with my TA to discuss.
I had Prof. Hollan for an On-Campus Internship (OCI), so I didn't interact with him individually much at all. From my few experiences talking with him/attending his class, he is extremely straightforward, blunt, no-nonsense--but he also is very clear with expectations and is happy to answer most questions.
Be aware that you have to do about 7.5 hours of work for this class each week to get an A. There is a lot of group work too. If you get an unfortunate group or a sponsor who doesn't communicate well with you, it is going to be tough. This class will prepare you for a future job though.
This was a great class! The lectures seemed a little useless at times but they were helpful.
Good class prepares you for future jobs and looks good to business school
A large aspect of this class is completing modules on Canvas- this is what he mirrors in class; he also prepares you to complete the assignments. The assignments are very time consuming and kind of took away from the time we could have been spending on our project. Take the project application seriously before the semester and you'll benefit a lot.
lectures are dry and long, going to class feels very pointless. the companies that sign up for the OCI can vary in quality but I had a decent experience with my project and fortunately had a good group.
I enjoyed his class. The canvas modules can be a lot sometimes, but overall, I totally recommend the class.
Professor Hollan is very intense and his lectures are boring and pointless. They literally did not help me at all, but attendance is required. The companies vary in quality, but it's a good class outside of actual class lol
The lectures are pretty useless and boring but participation is required. The homework can sometimes be helpful but most of the time it is useless.
Quite possibly the most boring professor of all time. It's a good thing we don't have class every week because they are THE most useless classes at BYU. The class I would recommend. My experience with my sponsor, team, and TA was amazing. Professor Hollan isn't great but it doesn't really matter because he doesn't do much.
The class is fine and really just depends on what OCI Sponsor you get. Professor Holland does his best but lectures are dry and sometimes feel not very needed. Attendance is mandatory but class isn't every week.
I had a fantastic experience with my sponsor! Unfortunately, the mandatory lectures and a lot of the coursework took time away from my sponsor and the work they had for us to do. Professor Hollan was often rude in his lectures and didn't actually do anything for me and my team. At least nothing helpful.
The lectures are incredibly dull but you might glean something valuable from them if you have never interacted with people in a group setting before. The project itself is hit or miss and totally depends on who your sponsor is and if you have a good team. I had an awesome experience as I had a great sponsor and our team clicked.
Great class with great, lectures were pretty useless though.
The internship is a positive experience, but the mandatory classes are not useful
Professor was good. I enjoyed my Oci team and if you show up to the lectures and put in the effort then you will be okay.
Class lectures where boring, it all just depends on the company and team you get. My experience was good
Great class to help with experience in the real world but class work is often useless and takes away from time that could be devoted to the internship.
MID The internships can vary from fire to awful. The canvas work became more of an annoyance and inhibited the actual internship work. Your team may or may not break you. May God bless you in this course
Great class for the most part! The modules on canvas were very hard to navigate and Professor Hollan is probably the least forgiving professor I've ever had. With that being said, its pretty easy to get an A and you get a lot of experience and this course is a great resume builder. Would definitely recommend.
If you do an OCI, your experience depends entirely on who is on your team, your sponsor, and what your project is. I had a really good team and we were kept busy so I had a great experience! David Hollan is a good teacher and he cares that we learn and grow. He can kind of come across as grumpy direct all the time, but that's just personality.
Was a good class and enjoyed the overall experience. Mainly goes over the reading during the lectures so you'll learn more from the experience you gain from the actual internship part of the class with your group and mentor.
He is not super involved when it comes to the actual work that you do in the class. His lectures were very boring, but you had to attend for class credit. The class itself is a lot of work and I would not recommend taking it unless you need a genuine internship opportunity to start off your career.
This professor runs a tight ship. Overall great experience for my OCI. You rely on the TA's a lot.
Most of the class is with your groups rather than in class. There's lots of points in this class so it's helpful for your grade. Project based class with peers.
Class feels pointless but it's mandatory
The course design for On Campus Internships is fabulous - I loved working with a real company and found it to be totally worthwhile. I would recommend the OCI experience. I think the course design is a little tedious and seemed to be a bit of busy work when I would have liked to have spent more time in the internship itself.
The in person lectures were not the best. The OCI is good for experience but the class part and some of the online modules felt like busy work.
This class mostly depends on the internship you get assigned so people can have very different experiences based on that. The projects for the class can sometimes feel a little over the top-busy work, and not always applicable depending on your internship. Professor Hollan is pretty no nonsense haha but his high expectations promote responsibility
Your assignment was clear. As long as you do it, you will be successful in this class.
The class is pretty straightforward. As long as you are keeping up with the schedule and working on your internship it will be fine. The class assignments sometimes felt like busywork. Overall, I found this class to be helpful. I learned how to be better at working in a team and got to learn more about what it means to be a professional.
Course is great, it was fun to work on a meaningful project. Worst part by far is the actual lectures. They're required and mostly consist of Professor Hollan taking 50 minutes to explain something that could have been a 3 paragraph email. Would have rather used that time to work on the actual project.
Lots of real world application. 7 and a half hours of work every week is hard to hit
Loves to include the gospel Dad Jokes Slightly Dry Humor On the stricter side.
I didn't like how you can't report previous hours you forgot to report.
If you have accommodations don't expect him to follow them or being lenient to personal struggles
He is more of a guiding force than a teacher. His biggest job is to maintain a good relationship with companies, sponsors, and other organizations rather. Lectures are mandatory, but there are only about 6-7 in-person mandatory lectures.
I really enjoyed working with the sponsor and company assigned to me and my team! I loved the real-world experience that I was able to get and I feel the course took away from my time to really help my team. Great class and great experience, would not take again because of poor professionalism experience with professor.
This teacher helped a lot. He was funny and truly cared for us.
Professor Hollan does a good job following the class rubric, I enjoyed his dad jokes every once and a while. The OCI itself was great, but the class associated with it was a little monotonous but I guess necessary.
The class is very straightforward mainly working on your own and in your team doing work for the company you are interning for. The mandatory class lectures were so pointless as it was a review of information and him telling people to do their work, He was nice and had some dry dad jokes but was not helpful. Prepare a lot of time spent in this OCI
Great for experience
The class is more about the company you intern for. The lectures weren't awesome.
He is very direct but he cares a lot about the students. He's very experienced and knows what he's talking about.
For this On Campus Internship, there are only a few classes held all semester because the focus is on working for the sponsor of the project. The classes are mandatory for credit, but they are really like pow wow sessions to get you motivated for your projects.
He was chill
There are only 7ish in class meetings but they are very much wastes of time, but you HAVE to go to all of them. The actual experience is great and necessary for your resume, just don't expect much from the teacher himself, my TA was great.
Great experience in class and it is a good resume builder. Prof only held a few lectures but they were required. The class itself is easy, but the majority of the work comes from your project, sponsor company, and working with the team.
Honestly, don't worry about what Brother is like; you probably will never interact with him. The only time you see him it's for class lectures that only happen every couple of weeks. All the guidance and direction you get is from the company you work for, the class is just organizational. Hollan is nice and a good teacher, but that's a bonus.
He isn't much of a teacher, but a conduit to learn through the OCI experience.
I liked the class a lot. But Prof Hollan wasn't a very helpful professor. Attendance was required but it seemed meaningless
The grading criteria is clear for the class, and as long as you put effort into your internship you'll be able to get a good grade. I liked how I was able to get real-life experience, which was different from past classes I've taken.
Pr. Hollan set up a great learning environment in that he had a great outline of the class with lots of supporting resources and a TA for each team. You learn to work in a team, make professional documents, and provide real value. The classes are pretty general, but there are only 6, so it's whatever. Spend time finding a good OCI and you're set.
It's a good system for an on-campus internship. I would try to find an internship that's online that you could do, and maybe even be paid for. Then if you can't find that, take the OCI.
The class is great, it's awesome that we have the opportunity to work with an actual company and still receive credit. I was fortunate to be paired with a fantastic team, which definitely made the experience great! I was a little bummed for points we missed on some assignments for things that were never taught or on the rubric.
You have to put in the work (minimum of 7.5 hours a week) but if you put in the required amount of hours it's a great experience and a pretty easy A.
This class is super fun and the hands on learning experiences that your project will give you are amazing! Most of your grade comes from participation as you have to record your hours each week. There are a few projects that will be required as well as a few small assignments on Canvas.
I loved my on campus internship. I learned so much. Professor Hollan is engaging, helpful, and wants to actually help you learn, not just get credit.
Professor Hollan is very encouraging. I really enjoyed my OCI this semester. Though you don't report to him and work with him directly, he is inspirational during class those few times throughout the semester. He has a lot of experience and is willing to help. He is also very big on how your OCI experience will impact the rest of your life.
Really cool guys and loves to keep classes fun.
Good professor that cares about your success. You only attend the lecture 6 or 7 times and the rest is on your own logging hours for the project (7.5 a week minimum). However, he gives confusing responses to questions over emails.
If you get a project that is not well structured, the experience is hardly worthwhile.
Makes it clear how to get a good grade in the class, emphasizes integrity, tries his best, cares about the subject. In this class, the time spent on the project matters most. The professor doesn't really matter.
Great on-campus internship opportunities and experiences that add to your resume. Practical real-life projects working with off-campus companies. Collaborative teamwork and independent individual work. All majors are welcome.
Classes were a drag and all about how to work in a team. (We all know how to do that) Being we're all BYU students, it felt like a waste of our time. He isn't the warmest guy, and he did not accommodate to me having to miss a class because of a school event where I was traveling out of state.
This course is a great opportunity to make connections and gain learning experiences. I didn't have any problems with the professor, he included some important points in the lectures to help us succeed with the internship.
He was great! Gave awesome spiritual thoughts!
This class was great for gaining real experience with a real company!
He is respectful, open to meet with you, and shares with you life lessons.
Professor Hollan was great! He can come off as intimidating, but he's super nice and understanding if you talk to him. MSB494R had a lot of busy work and I wouldn't necessarily recommend it if you don't like group projects, but Professor Hollan was a nice guy! He will make an effort to help you personally.
Sometimes class was a bit too much of a rehash of what we covered in the Canvas course modules.
I loved my internship and was lucky to get a good team. I benefitted a lot from it. I cannot however, in good conscience give this professor a decent review. He was not personable, accessible, or accommodating. Did not feel the spirit in his class. I think they should find someone else to teach this course.
American Heritage is somehow better. Sponsor was terrible (obviously not his fault) but had no sympathy for us. Didn't care that sponsor checked out, made us prepare our midterm in one night and present the next day. Had a meeting with him and he was so rude- "you are the worst students in my class" and "if you were employees I would fire you all"!
He cares about making sure this class helps us as much as possible and that we can grow from it.
You only go to the lecture 6 times throughout the semester, so the prof doesn't have a crazy big role in this course. The quality of it depends on your sponsor and your team, I had great both, so I had a great experience and learned a lot about real-world business.
Great professor, easy to get an A. Just go to class and do your work and you'll do great!
It mostly depends on your sponsor and team (both were incredible for me!), however Brother Hollan doesn't actually do much. The modules and assignments feel like busy work, he does not really care about you or your success - very much a "sorry out of luck" type of guy. Take the class for the experience but the whole thing is really what you make it
This class has a little bit of a unique structure. I was confused about it so I asked the professor and he refused to help and responded in a very demeaning way. i was shocked and offended ot see a BYU professor respond in such a mean way.
This class is based entirely on the sponsor and company you get assigned, but I'll tell you. It sucks. It's structured poorly, any assignments you get are pointless and annoying, and Prof Hollan is absolutely no help at all. Silly rules and grading, overall terrible experience. Can't in good conscious say anything good about it. Hated everything.
Loved this OCI course. Gained valuable real world experience.
You have to put the work in, he won't let you slack off
We only meet a few times but the rest is with your team and on your own. He's like the boss in a company.
He's a solid teacher, but it really just depends on the company that you get assigned with. He is pretty distant from the students and has 6 lectures that you have to go to and that's it.
class has many developmental opportunities for students rather than just get a good grade. The internships are sometimes interesting, all depending on which one you get. Regardless, if you look for ways to have an effective time, you'll find it. TAs are also essential and you can ensure yourself a good grade if you work with them early and often.
Professor Hollan was great at being very clear of what is expected out of the students. He reminds you very often of what you need to be doing and offers resources to help you succeed!
You won't have class every week but you are required to work on your project for at least 7.5 hours a week. The TA's are super helpful in making sure you do everything to get the best grade possible.
The teacher isn't particularly helpful to be honest. Most of your helpful information comes from your TA's. The lectures are mostly pretty pointless but attendance is mandatory.
The nature of this class does not lend itself to group instruction. I would have liked a little more individual interaction or interaction between our 4 person internship group and the professor
He doesn't really do much to determine how the class operates, it has more to do with the sponsor you work with. You have rank-choice for the sponsor you have, so make sure the highest ones are projects which align with your major/job field you want experience in.
Brother Hollan taught concepts in a way that was easy to understand, however I sometimes felt that time spent in class was not necessary. It was nice only having class 6 times the whole semester though.
This is a huge lecture class with you working in a team of 4 outside of class. Be prepared to spend 7-9 hours of work a week (including meeting hours) on this class. The assignments for the course are super easy because you spend most of your time working for the sponsor that is assigned to you. I would honestly recommend taking from Holland.
lectures were mandatory but most were not helpful at all. likes the drama of big projects and assignments but is unclear about grading. just hope you have a good TA because they will be the ones explaining what you need to do.
Cared more about sponsor feedback and coursework than us actually learning or providing value to the business.
Pretty good experience overall. I think the classes were redundant and not really beneficial. You could honestly just post the slides online and you could look over the info in 10 minutes or less. Not very forgiving if you make a mistake with recording hours which is understandable but I feel he was not very flexible with valid situations.
Good professor who was clear about what was necessary to excel in the class. Not difficult to get an A at all.
Organize the lecture content a little more, i think we could have attended class less than was nessary.
I think that the content of the lectures and online modules were helpful in teaching me how to work as a team. I felt as though lecture attendance shouldn't have been mandatory as the information in them was repeated in the modules, but I appreciated David Hollan's passion for his subject and respected that he was pushing me to do my best.
This class is really good, the teacher seems to find joy in your suffering. I got weird vibes from him and he does cold call in class. Overall the class is super fun and I loved my internship, I just didn't get the vibe that the professor was very adjustable for students
the professor is good most of the class time is spend with the team, sponsor and TA with numbered amount of lecture. lectures seem a bit pointless but other than that the class is pretty useful.
Good professor. He wants to help everyone succeed. Not a hard class but you have to put in the effort.
He is great, I took the OCI class from him and he was helpful in being a mentor through the course
I did the OCI class and it was awesome
Was good at teaching during lectures, encourages the team to "deal with ambiguity" and offers no guidance when navigating challenges with team sponsors.
There was some good information in class, but mostly felt pointless and unhelpful. However, there were only lectures when there was important assignments coming up so there wasn't too many pointless class hours.
This class is much more dependent on the company that you are assigned to work for than it is on the professor. Utilize your TA's and don't be afraid to ask a lot of questions.
Brother Hollan teaches only a few lectures throughout the semester, and you have to complete some reflection assignments. The main work you receive is from the project you're assigned from the company. Easy A, just do the work.
He was a good teacher but his lectures were a little pointless. Canvas modules took so much time and sucked, but the experience was worth it. I would take the class again despite some of the annoyances.
He's a great guy
As an individual, I believe David Hollan is a good person. Regarding the structure of his internship class, there is much to be desired. Modules/some deliverables are useless and take away time that could be spent on the Sponsor's projects. Classes are similarly ineffective. The time sheet structure promotes time-filling work over meaningful work.
Pretty easy class but time consuming, and a lot of useless modules that are not applicable at all. He is a little bit arrogant but he means well.
Get ready for a time consuming course. The course layout is also confusing and there are useless reflection activities each week that I would always forget about because they were labeled as surveys in canvas instead of assignments. I had to do the OCI for the business minor and I definitely would not have done it otherwise.
The classes where attendance was mandatory did not feel very helpful. I really liked the internship side of the class, but the busy work and assignment part was not enjoyable or necessary in my opinion. That being said, Brother Hollan is a great teacher and really loves his students and BYU. Thank you Brother Hollan
Was a great professor, he makes sure to keep you accountable for your own work.
Very cool guy. He wants to come off as intimidating and scary but he's super nice and fun to listen too.
Great teacher. Fun class with lots of opportunity to grow. Great experience for resume building and learning business.
Pretty easy class if you put in the effort and work for your sponsor and his/her company.
this is going to require a lot of time, at least 7 hours a week. but great experience for business, solid teacher. but wants things done to his level of expectation. Very straightforward though, expect little to no wiggle room on expectations.
This class is a large undertaking as it requires 7.5 hours a week to receive full credit. Hollan is a good professor, but he requires things to be done a very specific way, however as long as you follow his clearly written guidelines you will do fine. The majority of your grading will be done by your TA, so ensure you mainly follow up with them.
Very boring classes and instruction can be very vague at times
I enjoyed my time with Brother Hollan! The internship was a little rough at the beginning just because of how much ambiguity there was (which apparently he purposely designed for this class/internship) but over time it got better.
Great guy with a good sense of humor. Inside classwork can feel a little like busywork or unnecessary but the OCI experience is a great opportunity to learn.
The class is just busywork, but the internship can be fun and is a good resume builder.
Lots of busywork and unforgiving. OCI is great if you can't find other experience outside of school. Otherwise it's just free labor. Grading criteria is hard to find/vague. We had to meet w Hollan at one point. He was condescending & we had to strategize on how to talk w him rather than being open about our situation.
Professor Hollan was instructive and straightforward. Some students might take this as strict, but if you enjoy clear communication and proactively, Professor Holland and the class is great. It's all on you to make this class fun and worth it.
This class is really good and I learned a-lot.
We are required to attend a handful of classes in person but most of those classes have very little useful content. The online content is a little haphazard and confusing. Most of your interaction will be with the TA. Choose your preferences for your internship carefully as it could make or break your experience.
This professor has no empathy for his students and treats them like toddlers. The course is very outdated as well as his teaching methods.
Overall the class was a good learning experience. Brother Hollan comes from a place of experience and knowledge but I didn't find the mandatory lectures very helpful. I also found the course content on canvas to be a little annoying, and the dates seemed to be out of order for some of the assignments.
This class is a great way to receive real world experience and to build your resume. There is a lot of ambiguity that comes with the project but as long as you follow the course guidelines and work with your TA you'll be fine.
This class is a good way to get real world experience and to build your resume. At times there was uncertainty with the project but as long as you follow the course guidelines you should be good. Professor Holland is very blunt but hides it behind a big smile. On multiple occasions I felt like he was very condescending and unempathetic.
The lectures for this class felt a bit unnecessary but the interactions I had with David were good! It is really more dependent on your TA and Sponsor!
If you haven't done an internship and want easy professional experience, this is a good class to take. If you want to be told never to use AI and hear terrible dad jokes, this is the professor to take it from. Classes were pointless, in my opinion. Busywork isn't typically graded. TA didn't help me at all. But worth it if you want the experience.
The class is completely dependent on your group. I had a good group and we got the job done, but bad groups could make it more challenging. Direction is not super clear and classes were a waste of time, but it was free hours for me & I never paid attention. Timesheets are very annoying and would be the reason I wouldn't take this class again.
Only have to attend 6 classes, felt like a waste of time but weren't hard at all. Class really depends on the group you're put into.
The internship was a great experience but the classes themselves were not super helpful to the overall learning/internship experience.
Professor Hollan is very focused on preparing students for their future careers. The lectures are required but the majority of the grade comes from the work done outside of class.
This course requires a lot of time! The lectures and required meetings feel unnecessary but are required. The Canvas course is pretty confusing and doesn't give you much information on the assignments.
He was pretty good. I'm not sure if it's him or BYU, but the canvas assignments were super old and out of date feeling, with rubrics for assignments not clear. However, he did explain what he expects in class clearly. He tries his best to speak millennial language and be entertaining. (he's kind of old.) Lectures are short and sweet usually.
Professor Hollan was pretty good. The Canvas course was kind of old-school looking. Not sure if he set it up that way or someone else did. I did get an A, although it took a lot of work. It wasn't hard work, just the expected hours for an internship. He tried his best to speak millennial, although he could probably use some tips from other teachers
Hollan has genuine care for his students.
It was a fun class. I learned a lot but 7.5 hours is a little hard to carve out of a busy schedule.
The on campus internship is the real deal. Just make sure you have plenty of time in your schedule to put work into it, or else it will be very stressfull.
An OCI is what you make out of it. I would recommend signing up as soon as possible in order to have a higher likelihood of getting an internship that you're really interested in. Professor Hollan cares about his students and cares about their success.
He can be very intense in class lectures, but he does so to show how vital this project is, and he emphasizes spending on it, as this project could really help your resume.
Brother Hollan was really nice and passionate about his class, but I don't think the course was very organized very well. The canvas modules weren't always related to the work I was doing in my internship. A large part of how well this class went depended on how good your internship team and sponsor was. Not a hard class though, just need to work.
Professor Hollan seemed pretty uninvolved and didn't seem to be the most positive uplifting guy. The course gives pretty cool experience though.
Great professor, class has a lot of homework that kind of takes time away from actually helping your sponsor company. Great class overall and great experience!
Classes were required and helpful for knowing about upcoming assignments.
In-class lectures are not super helpful, but far and few between. The skills I learned through working on the project I had with my team are priceless. Highly Recommended!!
He is a passionate teacher and you can tell this class means a lot to him.
Professor Hollan does a good job at providing opportunities to get real world experience. Because you only go to class a handful of times through the semester and most of your interaction is with your TA, you won't really get to know Professor Hollan that well unless you mess something up bad or go out of your way to meet him. Great guy, ok teacher
He is a nice guy but kind of feels like a waste of time to go to the lectures.
I took an OCI from Brother Hollan and it was a great experience! It's definitely pretty time consuming (7.5hrs a week or more) but for the experience it was a really great opportunity. He was open to answering questions if they came up and has good TAs that help project groups too.
Not really organized, modules were a disaster, and class was pointless. The TAs are of great help.
Lectures were interesting, but we only had a few classes to attend. The rest of the time was for us to complete our projects.
The on-campus internship itself was amazing. I loved the course and learned so much, but the professor didn't help much. His classes were completely unrelated to the projects and the canvas work was just busy work. TA's weren't great either. But the class is definitely worth it.
Professor Holland was good at keeping us on track and had good points in his lessons, but it always felt more like a seminary class all the time rather than also teaching us how to implement the course material in our on-campus internships.
Very direct and clear instructions. Class was not every week but is required certain weeks. Class was a great experience and I learned a lot.
Prof. Hollan is very professional and gives great counsel during his lectures. I always enjoyed his cheesy jokes during class, and you can tell he cared about our success. The class is designed so each team has to take the reigns and figure out what needs to be done. That is difficult in the beginning, but the TA is very involved to help.
Brother Hollan has the difficult task of teaching a standard class to hundreds of students, all of whom have widely different types of internship projects. Catering to the needs and circumstances of many with a single syllabus is difficult.
Pretty chill guy. Just get your work done and you're all good.
Awful professor. Fantastic course. I had a great experience with the on-campus internship itself. But Prof. Hollan is just the worst lol. Definitely still take the course because thankfully you don't have to interact with him much. Just ask your TA for anything- avoid talking to Hollan at all costs.
The required lectures/modules were busywork, a lot of what he covered in lectures was obvious/felt repetitive. I enjoyed and learned a lot from working on my project with my team. Not hard to get a good grade if you put in the work, plan on 8 hours a week, just be careful not to forget to submit a module by the due date or it affects your grade.
Super nice and gospel based lectures when you do have class. Honestly, one of the most relevant classes I've ever taken. You need 7.5 - 9 hours of work weekly, so plan for a lot of work time for the internship and know that your weeks vary in how busy you are, so you'll want to get as much done early as you can.
I really enjoyed my experience overall, but it was only because of my TA and team. Prof. Hollan is very condescending in lectures, and the time spent in class is mostly completely useless. If you get a good team and sponsor, this will be a fun experience and you'll actually learn a lot!
This class was awesome! A lot of it is going to depend on the sponsor you get as well as the team you are put with. That really will make a big difference. I LOVED this class and it was so helpful! I would recommend... it looks good on your resume and shows the business school you are trying. This was a great experience, although time consuming.
Great class!
Super easy class. The professor doesn't prepare much and his lectures feel like he is trying to burn time. But class is only a couple of times a semester since most of your class is the internship.
Just do your work and you're fine. Class seemed superfluous sometimes. Just do 9 hours of work a week and things go okay. Canvas could be organized better.
Brother Hollan is a nice guy, but the required classes (6 the whole semester) are useless. Lectures tend to be gospel based. Your experience mainly depends more on your assigned project and TA. Each project has its own unique requirements. If you get a good TA you're set. I learned a lot from the project part of the class. Would take gain.
Professor Hollan is not very empathetic or understanding. It's mandatory that you attend every class, and there's no exceptions for missing. You learn good business and professional skills from working on the project. Luckily, my group was great and my sponsor and project were good. Otherwise, I wouldn't take this class.
The BYU OCI is a lot of time outside of class every week.
He was good, SOOOO much busy work though that I felt was irrelevant but it was cool to work on on a project for a real company!
This class was great! I took it to get more exposure to business in a professional setting and definitely received that. Projects are hit or miss but even with a trickier project, I still gained experience and developed many skills. Professor Hollan is just a conduit to take the class. Grading is easy and done by TAs! 7.5 hours are required a week.
Professor Hollan was strict, but cared about his students success. He was very reasonable and good at motivating students to do their best work. He takes OCI's very seriously as a professional opportunity, which was very helpful throughout the semester.
Brother Hollan is a good guy and always respectful of his students. The classes sometimes felt repetitive and unnecessary, but overall a good professor. The real thing that makes or breaks this class is having a good team and a good company sponsor for your OCI.
Does an excellent job at making the 6 classes per semester engaging! Some people felt they were not necessary, but I enjoyed them a lot. The idea of the class is super cool, but there are some internships that should not even exist and won't help you at all in the business world. Teacher is great, be super careful at what group you get into.
This class was pretty simple and upfront but depending on the sponsor that you get for your group project, the assignments and projects you do for that company can be challenging and stressful. So just pick the company you want to work with carefully
Bro Hollan was a great guy
Professor Hollan is very passionate about this class and takes it seriously. Expect about 7.5-9 hours total per week if you want an A. There is a plethora of companies to work with. I loved the company I got to work with and learned a lot. I would say there can be some ambiguity with the project, and it requires a good amount of time and energy.
Brother Hollan is a good guy, as a professor he was alright. Your experience with this class really just depends on the sponsor and business you work for, and also your attitude when you deal with unexpected problems. 7.5-9 hours of work a week are required a week, but that's including class time, which isn't always mandatory.
Good leader, learning depends on you
Brother Hollan is a good professor, but this class really depends more on your assigned group and your TA. If you get a good group, this class is great!
You don't have much interaction with the professor except for a few mandatory classes. The professor doesn't teach anything new, all the learning is done on your own in Canvas but the modules are just principles that could be useful but it all depends on your internship. Classes are mostly just lectures of him telling the class to do better.
He expects respect and professionalism when carrying out your presentations and other assignments.
This class is just busy work. Your experience and how easy the class is are determined by how good your team members are and how chill your sponsor is. Don't be too worried about the course load and getting an A. It is pretty straightforward.
I never wanted to miss class!
The OCI experience was great. A lot of work but I learned a lot.
Class is weirdly structured. Your work will mostly depend on your company sponsor.
He is a pretty chill professor. Class structure is weird, mostly dependent on your sponsor. I would take it again
The best! Super caring!
Mostly dependent upon what your sponsor wants you to do. A good experience overall
You don't interact much with Bother Hollan, but he is very supportive and willing to help if you reach out to him. The coursework is very straightforward on Canvas and not very difficult. Your experience mostly depends on your internship and the group you are assigned to.
Professor Hollan is dynamic in his presentation and values old-school (more like battle hardened by epic professional experience at Microsoft type school) integrity, honesty and good-quality work. He has excellent guidance for how to exceed employer expectations and be ready for the workplace. He's also got some nice dad jokes.
He was amazing, classes like twice a month. This class is like a part time job but so amazing and you learn so much ! I would recommend taking, and take time to look through the internship groups and don't select to many!
One of the best professors to prepare you for the real world. He really does want you to succeed. Your won't regret giving it an honest effort.
The class is overall pretty east. A lot of it depends on whether or not you get a good sponsor and group, but it was very fulfilling working with them. There is a lot of busy work you have to do for your project, and the teacher seems like he hates when students ask for help. Almost seems like he doesn't want to be there, not sure why.
Great experience. Mainly individual work with your group besides the few (around 6) required lectures for attendence points. You need 7.5ish hours of work on your project a week to get an A but its very doable. The actual course workload is reasonable, just some module surveys and then a big midterm presentation and final report and presentation.
This class was very reasonable! The biggest things is making sure you keep track of your hours. If you don't do that, you'll be in for some rough weeks at the end of the semester.
In the six times the class meets, Prof. Hollan gives guidance about assignments. I never got to talk with him, but I know he wants us to get the most out of our projects. I'd say your experience in this class will depend a lot on your team and your project sponsor. Some sponsors are highly involved with the team's progress, but others are not.
Good experience. Prof. Holland has organized the course very well. Put in the hours and you'll get an A.
Just lock in and do your hours and exceed expectations, honestly not that hard.
Be ready to put in the hours. Alot of your grade is based on the amount of hours you put in.
This Professor is kind, and willing to help students grow.
Good professor but it was mostly the project you worked on outside of class
For this course he was very encouraging of participation outside of class. The course requires a lot of self motivation and the professor made and emphasis on the importance of staying on top of work. He provided motivational strategies and suggestions to do well.
High standard of professionalism. I enjoyed his instruction in the OCI program. Resources were abundant towards our success
This class is easy if you just keep up with the work and meet with your team every week!
I was not a fan of this class or professor. If you don't need it for the minor, don't take it!!! The free labor is not worth the experience at all. I will not be putting this on my resume.
This class is entirely dependent on the TA and your project. The lectures are almost entirely useless, and there are assignments that are pointless which you need to do during your internship. Overall, the professor doesn't get involved much, lectures are useless but required. You communicate nearly exclusively with your team, TA, and sponsor only.
David Hollan is by far the worst professor I've had at BYU. He is unsympathetic, and out of touch with what it is like to be a student today. Intern sponsors vary a lot, and if you have any issue at all, he acts like it's your fault even if your problem is your sponsor being horrible. Lectures are not useful at all and he never explains assignments
MSB 494R is for BYU On-Campus Internships. My only complaint with this class is that there is SO MUCH BUSY WORK. I spent over 1/3rd of the time on busy work, when I just wanted to do actual work for the company's internship. Other than that, it was a great experience. You NEED a good group though. If your group is bad, drop it before the deadline.
This class is nice to get real world experience, but there are so many easier ways to do it without these unneccessary lectures and busy work. Hollan takes the class portion of the internship way too seriously. Net negative experience.
Seems like he doesn't want to help students at all. He's impossible to work with, no flexibility on anything whatsoever.
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