2.0

Robert Kilmer

Business - Messiah University

2.0
Quality
4.0
Difficulty
4%
Would Retake
85
Reviews
2.0
Quality
4.0
Difficulty
2.2
Helpful
1.7
Clarity

4%

Would Retake

85

Reviews

Rating Distribution
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49

What Students Say

Kilmer is so bad that all you can do is laugh

BUSA360 - 1.0 rating

Kilmer is without a doubt the worst

BUSA360 - 1.0 rating
Class Info

Online Classes

100%

Attendance Mandatory

96%

Textbook Required

36%

Grade Predictor

Your expected effort level

LowHigh

Predicted Grade

B+

95% confidence
Based on 19 grades
Most common grades:
A (7)
B (4)
A- (3)
Grade Distribution
A(9)B(4)C(3)D(0)F(0)A-/B+(3)
Based on 21 reported grades
A: 7
B: 4
A-: 3
A+: 2
Common Tags
Tough Grader (18)
Skip class? You won't pass. (12)
LOTS OF HOMEWORK (7)
Participation matters (4)
Tough grader (4)
LECTURE HEAVY (3)
Lots of homework (3)
Lecture heavy (3)
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Ratings by Course

BIS320BUS360

5.0

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BIS300

5.0

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BUSA356

4.0

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BIS320

3.4

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BIS3203

3.0

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BIS3203

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BIS320BUS360

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DROPPEDBIS230

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CIS418

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BUSA000

5.0

Reviews (85)
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BIS320
Oct 30, 2002

No Comments

2.0
5.0
BIS333
Nov 22, 2002

Tests are impossible and ambigous

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BIS320
Nov 23, 2002

bad, cares about his students, no idea how to teach, crazy grading scheme

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BIS333
Dec 2, 2002

Needs to become a better teacher

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BIS320
Dec 6, 2002

Hard, but I learned a lot. He is intimidating, but he loves what he does.

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CSC182
Dec 6, 2002

couldn't help me with problems i had

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DIDNTEVE
Dec 7, 2002

outdated like commodore 64, not logical, needs to wear a watch, terrible prof

3.0
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BIS3203
Dec 12, 2002

tests are ridiculous, likes to make homework tedious and unhelpful

4.0
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BIS
Dec 16, 2002

You need to learn to play his little games.... it's annoying, I know!

1.0
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BIS
May 1, 2003

STAY AWAY FROM HIS CLASSES! HE IS TERRIBLE!!!

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BIS63
May 9, 2003

I think I should teach his courses. maybe there'd be a little more education going on. I seriously had to drop the course because I couldn't learn anything from him, I already knew from high school everything that he was trying to teach.

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BIS
May 30, 2003

STAY FAR, FAR AWAY!

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BIS320
Jun 25, 2003

Extreamly demanding, but he WILL help you become a better student, and he does prepare you for a real carreer in the business world. Be prepared to work.

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BIS
Sep 26, 2003

Dr. Kilmer is one smart cookie, but that does not always translate to being a great communicator. His heart is in teaching and therefore he will challenge you. Ask a lot of questions or you will be left behind!

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BIS320
Oct 9, 2003

not fun

3.0
5.0
BIS
Oct 15, 2003

Not intouch with whats really important. I was a BIS major and use none of what we learned in the real world. You really have to learn to play his games to get good grades. Avoid!

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BIS320
Dec 10, 2003

I don't think I've ever met a man so snide, demeaning, and conniving in my life. He makes you feel like you're the dumbest person on the face of the earth while he's the most godly servant on campus. He's always trying to trick you up.

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BIS
Dec 18, 2003

Kilmer is the cause for myself and others leaving Messiah College. His main goal is to make students get bad grades. My favorite quote of his "I put questions on this test that we never covered because tests are supposed to be learning experiences.

5.0
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BIS320
Mar 31, 2004

great teacher! extremely helpful! very spproachable and shows that he cares for students. class is intersting and fun. i have not a single complaint. definetly my favorite teacher at messiah. he is great! i would take any class he is teaching!

4.0
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BIS320
Apr 28, 2004

You have to do EXACTLY what he says. You have to play his games, but then if you do what he says, and set up meetings with him outside of class, you will get a good grade. Overall, teaches you more about real life then just the course description.

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BIS230
Sep 27, 2004

This man is too lazy to even teach his own class -- makes his students do all the work of teaching each other. Gives absolutely absurd amounts of work, and even putting in your full effort doesn't guarantee a good grade.

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BIS230
Nov 17, 2004

Professor Kilmer is the worst professor i have ever had in my three years of messiah. I would not recommend him to anyone. The fact that a "memorandum" takes longer than the actual assignment is absurd. And that he tests students on material never covered simply for a "learning experience"isnt fai

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BIS230
Dec 13, 2004

One word: incompetent. Oh, and three more words: "holier than thou". Everything he does is right, and if he doesn't like you (NOT based on grades), everything you do is wrong.

1.0
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BIS230
Dec 16, 2004

The guys a lazy moron. He has the students teach the class while he does nothing and says it's "harder for him" Tests are harder than anything and you never have any idea what to study for. Allways seems to answer your questions with a question...???? Avoid at all costs.

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BIS320BUS360
Apr 1, 2005

His classes are extreamly difficult yes, but everyone calling him lazy is ignorant. Kilmer is easily one of the hardest working profs you will ever find. Expects three times the amount most professors expect out of students, but I assure you, he puts that back into it. TEACHES MORE THAN ACADEMICS

4.0
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BIS230
Apr 4, 2005

Play his games like using the correct colored folders and meeting with him regularly and you'll do fine, but the class is rediculous. He makes easy material hard. Purposely leaves important bits of material or assignments out so that students would have to come see him.He is devoted to his students

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BIS230
Apr 6, 2005

spawn of satan. i mean that in the kindest way. takes a fairly straight forward easy subject simply required to give students an idea of how to use computer applications and makes it into the class from hell. avoid this class like a plague.

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BIS230
Apr 18, 2005

Kilmer is a wonderful prof. He makes the class a tad more difficult than it may need to be, but you become a better student overall from taking a class with this man. HINT: visit his office reguarly with questions (he makes assignments hard to understand so that you do this) and he gives you e.c.

2.0
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BIS230
May 3, 2005

I thought everyone was exaggerating until taking his bull-crapped final exam. Half of the material on the test was addressed neither by him nor by the student-taught assignments. His concept of student responsibility goes too far. As if I have time to keep meeting him after his 1.5 hour classes.

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BIS230
May 8, 2005

If you have to take this class I'm so sorry. He may mean well (I'm not sure), but his ridiculous, unnecessary games are really annoying either way. You will be spending countless evenings doing groupwork. This class is a semester ruin-er. The final..I hope your an Access expert, otherwise..forget it

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BISCLASESS
Oct 3, 2005

Very smart but sometimes he was very unclear with how he presented it. If he had Nejmeh's style he would be a B+ teacher

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BIS230
Oct 17, 2005

I am told he will likely be my worst professor throughout my messiah years. I have no doubt.

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DROPPEDBIS230
Nov 17, 2005

Kilmer is the worst prof anyone will ever take. He teaches class and gives assignments like you have no other classes to take in college. You spend 8 hours a night on h/w only to get a bad grade b/c you didn't do the pointless memoradum right, but you did the assingment right. He sits WAY too close to girls when he talks to them. SO glad I got out!

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BIS230
Nov 18, 2005

He is an annoying, pompous, try to be know it all, who thinks he's God's gift to Messiah College business students. Class a bunch of useless busy work and barely learn anything about computers. Makes extra credit seem like a big deal, but his ec pts value very little percentage wise. If you talk to him and play his stupid game you'll survive.

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BIS230
Dec 15, 2005

Horrible, that is the one word that sums up his class. He plays games with the students and if they fail he has a huge grin on his face. In my opinion his grading system is way off. He puts way too much weight on the stupid written reports, when your 8 hours of preparation and a solid presentation will get you a low score. AVOID THIS PROF!

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BIS230
Jan 13, 2006

your screwed before even entering the classroom...hold out for hope he might not teach it...one of the worst professors to have taught at messiah college

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BIS230
Sep 16, 2006

Excelent Professor! Really wants his students to learn the skills they will need in order to get a job and to succeed. He gives you all the info necessary for assignment, READ ALL INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE YOU START and you'll do great. Willing to help and more available than most profs I've had. Take this professor but be ready to work hard!

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BIS333
Sep 29, 2006

I'm taking my 2nd Kilmer class and realizing it's exactly the same as his other class, even though the material is completely different. It's inconsequential to him. He has spent about 10% of the class time regurgitating the textbook; the rest has been either us working in lab or him talking about things that have nothing to do with the course.

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BIS230
Nov 2, 2007

nice guy

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BIS333
Jun 6, 2008

Do not be scared by all the previous bad ratings he's not that bad. He has calmed down a lot with his grades. He offers a lot of bonus and if you work and learn to know what he wants he will give you a good grade

5.0
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BIS300
Nov 20, 2008

Wonderful Professor. He cares about his student's education and how much they will actually gain from each lesson. He makes himself available for tutoring assistance, or if a student needs help on a difficult task.

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BIS300
May 7, 2009

Good guy, good class, good prof!

4.0
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BIS230
Jul 26, 2010

Prof Kilmer is awesome! Get to know him a little and he will love you. Grading and class is not hard if you do what is asked and study off powerpoints he provides for the quizzes. Attendance is not mandatory and is not necessary if you do things outside of class. I had it at 8 AM and barely went to class because I was caught up in class.

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BIS333
Nov 11, 2010

He is a good professor. Can be unclear at times but is always willing to help. His tests can be a little long but they are open textbook. Gives a lot of homework assignments. Expect to spend a decent amount of time outside of class working on HW.

4.0
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BUSA358
Oct 31, 2011

Great Prof, doesn't follow standard educational techniques, is far more relaxed about stuff, which means you learn waaaayyy more.

2.0
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BIS381
Nov 30, 2011

Nice guy, but he needs to realize how much he frustrates students with his teaching style and meaningless assignments. From finding and listing all the acronyms in a reading to asking how to improve the class every single period, I didn't learn a thing, and my classmates said the same thing. One of the most frustrating/pointless classes I've taken.

1.0
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BIS381
Jan 10, 2012

The class I took with him was totally useless. I didn't learn anything. If you take a class with him, don't take it very seriously because I failed the final yet I still managed to get a B+ in the class. He gives so many extra credit opportunities that help you do well in the class even if you treat it like a joke.

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CIS381
Mar 10, 2014

Last year he gave a 200 question exam.

1.0
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CIS381
Mar 31, 2014

As long as you are learning. Learning, Learning, Learning without regard for anything else (amount of work given, without any useful lectures, etc.)

3.0
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BUSA358
Grade: A-
Apr 18, 2014

Dr. Kilmer is one of the greatest professors I've ever had!!!! His purpose to teach how to use knowledge one receives while in school and use it outside in a real world. It is very sad to see that many students do not understand how lucky they are to have him.

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MATH107
May 1, 2014

For some reason, Messiah tasked an artificial-intelligence specialist with teaching a 100-level math course. The result was catastrophic. Student-led lectures, rants about the business world, and a frustrating belief that accurate grades ("C's are good!") are more important than GPA-based scholarships made class miserable. Avoid at all costs.

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CIS381
Grade: A+
May 6, 2014

Dr. Kilmer today: "When in the business world, how are you going to handle stress? Are you going to go "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" (Shouts loud enough for the entire 3-story building to hear him)... I must say that is the only time I have paid attention in his class all year... Avoid this PROFESSOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

5.0
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CIS381
Grade: A+
May 12, 2014

Great prof. very wise. taught me a lot of good stuff. Highly recommend him.

1.0
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CIS418
Nov 24, 2014

This is the worst class with Kilmer that I've taken. And none of the others have been good either. We learn nothing actually related to Artificial Intelligence. We talk about useless probabilities and algorithms that are incorrect. The book says AI on the cover but in reality has nothing to do with artificial intelligence.

4.0
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BUSA356
Grade: A
May 13, 2015

Assignments are hard, but professor is there to help! Quizzes are not bad if you do the assignments, pay attention in class, and ask questions when you need clarification. Take notes during class!

1.0
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BUSA000
Grade: B
Sep 24, 2015

Please just read the negative reviews that range from 2002 until now. Nothing has changed since then. Really, I can't express the frustration that this professor has *intentionally* caused me to have. His lectures are completely irrelevant to the large amount of work that we need to complete outside of class.

1.0
5.0
BUSA000
Grade: C+
Oct 8, 2015

Lack of clarity, constant conversation during class about himself (often), the mono-tone voice that could put you to sleep, the difficult methodology of instruction and the amount of course work is all overwhelming. As much as I like a good challenge and I appreciate hard work, every class that he instructs is a complete misery.

2.0
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MATH107
Oct 15, 2015

A very nice guy but not the best professor. His voice will nearly lull you to sleep because of how monotone it is. It is a huge challenge to stay awake no matter how much sleep you've had. He is very confusing and doesn't prepare us adequately for tests. He always asks for feedback but the class doesn't change.

2.0
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BUSA358
Grade: Not sure yet
Apr 25, 2016

This is the only class I can recommend taking with Kilmer, it's pretty easy and he actually designs the class so that he doesn't have to lecture much, which is beneficial for both you and him. There were no exams when I took it, just daily quizzes so keeping up with the reading was the only critical part of the class.

1.0
4.0
MATH107
Sep 28, 2016
Wouldn't take again

Dr. Kilmer is extremely difficult and I am only 5 weeks into school. He attempts to solve problems on the board in which he gets confused about and can't get the correct answers. He says HW is graded lightly but he grades for accuracy not completion. Difficult to understand and follow along with. MORE HW in this 107 course than a 300 level course.

Tough Grader
Skip class? You won't pass.
LOTS OF HOMEWORK
1.0
4.0
MATH107
Grade: A-
Oct 4, 2016
Wouldn't take again

Literally hate Dr. Kilmer. He doesn't even know the things he's teaching. 0/10 would not recommend.

Tough Grader
Skip class? You won't pass.
LOTS OF HOMEWORK
1.0
4.0
MATH107
Nov 2, 2016
Wouldn't take again

Make's too many mistakes in class and doesn't explain concepts well.

Tough Grader
LOTS OF HOMEWORK
TEST HEAVY
1.0
5.0
MATH107
Nov 15, 2016
Wouldn't take again

His homework is so much harder then it deserves to be for a 107 class, he gets off topic too easily, and he doesn't even teach the material correctly so you have to teach yourself. 0/10 recommend

Skip class? You won't pass.
LECTURE HEAVY
GRADED BY FEW THINGS
1.0
5.0
BUSA360
Nov 29, 2016
Wouldn't take again

Of all the teachers & professors I've had from Kindergarten through college, Dr. Kilmer is without a doubt the worst. It is common for deflated students to claim that a teacher "doesn't teach" but I can assure you that Kilmer actually does not teach. He expects you to learn everything yourself and takes points off for the most ridiculous things.

Tough Grader
Skip class? You won't pass.
LOTS OF HOMEWORK
1.0
5.0
BUSA360
Nov 29, 2016
Wouldn't take again

Kilmer is so bad that all you can do is laugh. Looking back, I would legitimately change my major to avoid taking this class with him.

Tough Grader
1.0
5.0
MATH107
Grade: C
Dec 8, 2016
Wouldn't take again

Attendance is mandatory. Unless you want to fail in participation. Write down everything you feel/did in the little blue book "class journal". he is a very tough grader and will take random points off for no reason.

Tough Grader
Participation matters
Skip class? You won't pass.
4.0
3.0
MATH107
Dec 8, 2016
Would take again

Dr. Kilmer is very underrated. He's caring, accessible outside class, and genuinely wants you to do your best. For those of you taking this for your major and thinking Math 107 is super hard, well, for the record, I'm Studio Art, and I did fine. And of course there's a lot of work that comes with it, it's math and it requires practice.

ACCESSIBLE OUTSIDE CLASS
Caring
EXTRA CREDIT
1.0
4.0
MATH107
Grade: A
Dec 17, 2016
Wouldn't take again

Professor Kilmer is condescending, confusing, and takes points away constantly. He fails everyone on participation, even for excused absences. The content of math 107 isn't hard, but you'll have to teach yourself. The exam was the hardest I've ever taken. Quizzes and tests are hard with little partial credit. He will ask things he didn't ever teach

Tough Grader
Skip class? You won't pass.
LOTS OF HOMEWORK
1.0
4.0
BUSA360
Grade: B
Dec 20, 2016
Wouldn't take again

Trying to be objective while evaluating Dr. Kilmer is one of the hardest things I've done. People politely have pointed out his issues for years, but he's refused to listen, as he acts like all students are idiots & have no business asking questions. If you don't believe me, wait until you hear his speech about why students shouldn't do class evals

Tough Grader
TEST HEAVY
GROUP PROJECTS
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5.0
MATH107
Grade: C-
Mar 30, 2017
Wouldn't take again

Kilmer's class was the worst academic experience I've ever had. Don't get me wrong, he is a nice guy, but his teaching style is an absolute joke. I cannot explain the number of times I cried while (attempting) to do my homework and how many times I worried about my future in the business department purely because of this man and his class.

Tough Grader
Skip class? You won't pass.
ACCESSIBLE OUTSIDE CLASS
1.0
5.0
CIS283
Grade: A
Oct 9, 2017
Wouldn't take again

Kilmer is a kill joy. CIS 283 was the worst class I've ever taken, ever, and I'm currently in my junior year. Mind you that I have a 3.9 GPA, and this was the hardest CS class I've ever taken. The grading is full of gotchas, the book is awful, and he doesn't actually lecture on the material.

Tough Grader
Get ready to read
Skip class? You won't pass.
2.0
4.0
MATH107
Nov 1, 2017
Wouldn't take again

Dr. Kilmer overall is a nice person, and I wouldnt mind having him as a grandfather, but not a teacher. There are many confusions as this material is tough, and his style of teaching leads to more confusion.

Tough Grader
Get ready to read
Participation matters
1.0
5.0
CIS283
Grade: B
Dec 16, 2017
Wouldn't take again

This class was really rough. Avoid this prof.

Tough Grader
Skip class? You won't pass.
Tests are tough
1.0
5.0
MATH107
Grade: Rather not say
Jan 24, 2018
Wouldn't take again

No. Never ever ever ever ever again. Just read everything else, it tells it all.

Tough Grader
Participation matters
Skip class? You won't pass.
1.0
5.0
MATH107
Feb 1, 2018
Wouldn't take again

Dr. Kilmer RUINED my 1st semester of freshman year. Never struggled so much in something. His class was unbelievably hard for a 100 level class, & he was HORRIBLE at teaching & providing help. I lold when he said that he knows how to teach, BIGGEST LIE EVER. Never stayed on topic. Worst man ever. AVOID Kilmer at ALL COSTS. Listen to the reviews.

Tough Grader
Skip class? You won't pass.
LECTURE HEAVY
1.0
5.0
CIS283
Feb 6, 2018
Wouldn't take again

CIS 283 was the worst CS class I've ever taken. He says he's open, but he shuts down the conversation. He told us not to go on this website to consider the morality of it. I'd invite you to consider the morality of that statement sooner than I'd forgo warning other people. Your reputation is something you've negotiated, paid for, and deserve.

Tough Grader
Skip class? You won't pass.
LOTS OF HOMEWORK
1.0
3.0
CIS171
Mar 1, 2018
Wouldn't take again

I do not recommend Kilmer at all. He makes you comment on every single assignment whether or not you finished it completely (like, yes I did that is why I'm turning it in). If you don't document this he takes significant points off of your otherwise perfect assignment. He is also very boring, and it's hard to stay awake.

Tough Grader
LOTS OF HOMEWORK
LECTURE HEAVY
1.0
4.0
MATH107
Grade: A-
Apr 10, 2018
Wouldn't take again

Kilmer is a nice enough man but an AWFUL teacher. I went to office hours to ask for help on a problem, and he told me "I was not going to be able to get that problem right because I didn't have any common sense." Literally. I passed only because I spent hours teaching myself EVERYTHING the week before finals. 1/10 would NOT recommend- take Lehman!!

Participation matters
1.0
2.0
MATH107
Grade: A
Apr 10, 2018
Wouldn't take again

I cant call Kilmer a teacher because he never taught anything. He showed practice problems but would constantly make errors, even on things as simple as single digit addition. I took Calc in high school so I already knew what to do and it was obvious to me that Kilmer did not. How can someone with such a small mental capacity be so condescending?

Tough Grader
1.0
4.0
CIS381
Grade: A
Oct 16, 2018
Wouldn't take again

Kilmer provides the most useless procedures known to mankind. Every assignment needs a statement saying you completed the assignment. Yes i completed the assignment, that's why I'm turning it in. He takes off numerous points for meaningless things on meaningless homework. The course is so tedious. He also gives you more than you can do.

Tough Grader
1.0
3.0
CIS171
Grade: A
Apr 4, 2019
Wouldn't take again

Literally the worst professor I have ever had in my life. I got a good grade in the class and yet it felt like torture to sit through. His assignments were meaningless and hes just an absolute mess of a teacher. Hes cocky and not at all helpful. He thinks he knows better than everyone else... and yet he simply does not. NEVER take him!!

Lots of homework
Lecture heavy
Tough grader
1.0
4.0
CIS381
Grade: B
Apr 30, 2019
Wouldn't take again

Terrible, that is the only word to describe him. If I were Thanos, I would collect the stones for the sole reason to snap myself away from having to take that class.

Lecture heavy
So many papers
Tough grader
1.0
4.0
CIS381
May 2, 2019
Wouldn't take again

Don't do the mistake I did. I thought to myself "It can't be this bad", but how wrong I was. This class provided no benefit to me. Grading made no sense. 80% is just tests so if you aren't good at taking them, just save yourselves. He himself stated he wouldn't be able to listen to himself teach. If that doesn't say anything, I don't know what does

Lots of homework
Test heavy
Lecture heavy
1.0
5.0
CIS171
May 20, 2019
Wouldn't take again

All the bad previous reviews are here for a reason. He fails you if you make tiny little mistakes- and it's a GenEd class. Once I asked him for help and he told me to ask each student in the class before I can bother him. Well, don't you get paid to help students? The only professor whose classes I missed because I felt miserable and uncomfortable

Test heavy
Tough grader
1.0
5.0
CIS171
Grade: A
Dec 18, 2019
Wouldn't take again

He's an awful professor. This class was supposed to be an easy one that counted for the Math credit, but it was horribly hard and incredibly useless. You have to sweat through everything and, even if by the time you get to finals week you have a 98, the THREE different final tests will drag your grade down. It's an awful class, don't take it!

Lots of homework
Test heavy
Tough grader
Class Info

Online Classes

100%

Attendance Mandatory

96%

Textbook Required

36%

Grade Predictor

Your expected effort level

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Predicted Grade

B+

95% confidence
Based on 19 grades
Most common grades:
A (7)
B (4)
A- (3)
Grade Distribution
A(9)B(4)C(3)D(0)F(0)A-/B+(3)
Based on 21 reported grades
A: 7
B: 4
A-: 3
A+: 2
Common Tags
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Skip class? You won't pass. (12)
LOTS OF HOMEWORK (7)
Participation matters (4)
Tough grader (4)
LECTURE HEAVY (3)
Lots of homework (3)
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